Xbox 360 in 1080p
Paul Thurrott has an item on WinInfo about Microsoft releasing the HD DVD add-on for the Xbox 360 for only $170 this Fall. What is more interesting to me is that a 360 firmware update will boost the max resolution of the 360 from 1080i to 1080p. This is news, and as Paul says, the last big differentiator between PS3 and the 360.
Is Sony further doomed? Not in the least. The Sony zealots will still shell out gobs of cake for a PS3, but Microsoft just made their argument even more compelling. I’m just a little happier in that this will help justify buying a 1080p HD set when I get a big one soonish. Even though television programming won’t be broadcast at that level for years to come, at least there could be some earlier benefit in the greater cost over the 720p sets. As it stands now, it’s about an $800 difference for the size set I am looking at. I bet the earliest we see a 1080p game is late 2007 though.
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JFCC
Thu :: 21 :: Sep :: 2006 :: 09.59 am
After playing Dead Rising for twenty minutes at my cousin’s house, I’ve pretty much settled on a 360. I’ll wait until Xmas, though, at which point they’ll have hopefully ironed out a few more of the hardware bugs.
Ed
Thu :: 21 :: Sep :: 2006 :: 01.58 pm
You might want to wait until next year. Reportedly, they have a redesigned chip that will go into play next year – that will result in better heat distribution inside the box. Of course, most of the early hardware issues have been resolved – so the likelihood of getting a shoddy box now is pretty slim. Like a PC – you do have to keep it out in the open. I had mine on top of my entertainment center (not boxed in) and never had heating issues. If you close the cabinet or leave it on a Shag carpet (like Sean does) you’re gonna’ have issues.
As for the HD-DVD option – by purchasing that (in addition to a $400 360) – MS is now only $30 cheaper than Sony’s top-of-the line model – and Sony’s $600 unit comes with a 60GB hard-drive – compared to Sony’s 20GB. Suddenly, Sony doesn’t look so crazy.
Ed
Thu :: 21 :: Sep :: 2006 :: 02.29 pm
Picked this off of CNET –
Microsoft’s 1080p plans may be more flash than substance, however. Because the 360 lacks an HDMI output, the only way to get the improved HD resolution will be via the system’s default component outputs or (presumably) by adding a VGA cable (sold separately). The problem: almost no HDTVs actually accept 1080p video signals via their component inputs. VGA/RGB inputs tend to fare better in this regard, but they’re not as prevalent on HDTVs as the ubiquitous component inputs are. Also, movie studios have the option of adding a so-called Image Constraint Token to their HD-DVD and Blu-ray movies, a copy-protection option that delivers less-than-optimal resolution through all outputs but HDMI. They have yet to do so, but if they reverse course, watching HD-DVDs on the 360 would deliver a movie-watching experience that’s little better than that of standard DVDs. Similarly, while the software update may enable the 360 to upscale games and videos to 1080p resolution, most games will still be optimized for a native resolution of 720p.
I wouldn’t base your TV purchase on the HD-DVD.
JFCC
Thu :: 21 :: Sep :: 2006 :: 03.17 pm
I’ve never been a hardware guy, or even much of a graphics guy. It’s all about the games. And I think that’s how a lot, perhaps even most, gamers make their decisions.
As of right now, 360 has the games I want to play. That’s all it comes down to for me. I mean, I don’t want my 360 breaking, but as long as it functions, I’m good.
But as for HD and cool graphics and whatnot, it takes a lot to make my eyes bleed. I just spent two weeks playing my old N64 and had a grand old time. I can easily play the old Street Fighter II and enjoy myself, because the game is fun. Good graphics are nice, but the greatest, highest-definition graphics in the world won’t save a shitty game–while a great game with mediocre graphics is often worth playing.
Ed
Thu :: 21 :: Sep :: 2006 :: 09.02 pm
If your an SFII fan – the 360 is for you. They currently have SFII available for download (and online play) on X-Box Live Arcade – so you always have a live opponent.
Sean
Thu :: 21 :: Sep :: 2006 :: 09.33 pm
I don’t plan on getting the HD-DVD drive, but you make a good point on it basically getting them to the price of a PS3 if you do. I don’t plan on getting into the next-gen DVD arena until a standard is decided, so that will likely take a couple years.
I am basing my TV choice on the 360, but not for the promise of the 1080p, etc. It is because of the 8ms response time it supports, which is good for games and good for TV in general, not to mention the size. At this point, for the amount of money it is going to cost and the size I want, I might as well go all out. I don’t want to buy one now and another in five years.
As for the HDMI, I don’t see why MS doesn’t just release an HDMI cable like they did with VGA, S-Video and the Component versions. If the hardware supports it, then all they need is the new cable.
With respect to games, yeah, most are gonna still be 720p, but there are some coming that are 1080i and eventually there will be 1080p — I’m betting on Halo 3 — so it will just take time. Also, anyone stupid enough not to change the rate to match the game deserves the experience they get.
Finally, my 360 sits on the cart in an open space and so does the power brick. I ain’t stupid and I ain’t had shag carpeting since living in the Rockland ‘jects, yo!
Gordon Freeman
Fri :: 22 :: Sep :: 2006 :: 01.01 pm
Just re: Ed’s comment about SFII on X-Box Live Arcade – be very wary. The reviews have been very bad for the game, specifically that there’s a lot of lag during online play, the leaderboard is screwed up (if people are losing matches, they can just disconnect and not lose any points) and it’s very, very buggy.
Sean
Fri :: 22 :: Sep :: 2006 :: 09.50 pm
Paul has reported more to do with this in this week’s WinInfo Short Takes:
There’s also a bit about Sony adding HDMI to the lower priced PS3 and lower pricing for the *home* market as well.